Over the years, Fred Meyer stores in Oregon have
experienced a lot of success in employing the talents of
people with intellectual disabilities. Typically, these
people are hired and employed with the assistance of job
developers (who support them through the job search
process) and job coaches (who, as required, provide
on-site support to the employee and employer). The Fred
Meyer store in Portland’s Hollywood district is a great
example of how people with intellectual disabilities
have proven to play valuable roles within the Fred Meyer
workplaces. In a recent conversation with us, Alisa
Shaver, the Store Director, and Janice Cavanaugh, the
Human Resources Administrator gave us their insights
about how and why these folks are a viable part of Fred
Meyers’ workforce.
OBLN: Alisa and Janice, we understand that the
Hollywood West store has hired a number of people with
disabilities who have been supported by job developers
and job coaches. Can you give us a brief overview of
that?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: We have worked with several job
developers that have approached us. They have lined us
up for interviews with some of the people that they are
working with. We look for outgoing, friendly people…
people who make our customers feel welcome and
comfortable in our store. We go through the same hiring
process that we would for anybody else.
ALISA SHAVER – We have about five to six employees
now with job coaches. We have a couple out in Garden
Center. (One of them has worked here for three or four
years already and he does a great job!) We have two
people in parcel positions, somebody who does some
simple maintenance for us. One of these employees is
employed full-time. The others are employed part-time
(20 – 40 hours/week). They are all eligible for
benefits.
OBLN: Janice, tell me about how you work with job
developers – the people who help job seekers with
disabilities to find jobs.
JANICE CAVANAUGH: The job developers work for several
different community organizations. Sometimes people will
come in and give me their card and say that I can
contact them if I need help in recruiting people, but my
feeling is that is if somebody wants a job here they
need to come in and apply. Most of the time when they
think they have someone who would be a good fit for one
of our jobs, they will call me and we will discuss it.
If their person looks like a good fit, we’ll schedule an
appointment for a survey session.
As closely as possible I try to have them follow our
complete process for new employees – including our
pre-employment survey, drug testing, etc. Most of our
jobs require the skills that would be required to
complete the employee survey but on occasion I have had
job coaches help people with that.
OBLN: So, job coaches – the people who support the
new employee on the job… you have also found them to be
helpful?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: Job coaches have been a nice tool
to have available with these employees – someone who can
come in and have a conversation with the employee if an
issue comes up. They often have more expertise in doing
that than someone at store level.
The most recent person that we hired was a young man
that we hired as a greeter. (We have greeters who stand
at the door and greet customers as they come into the
store.) He had a very hard time staying on task. He
would wander off sometimes. It just wasn’t the right job
for him. We sat down and talked about it and moved him
into a parcel position – bringing in shopping carts,
carrying out groceries, cleaning the check stands, etc.
and that proved to be a better position for him. He is
doing well on that job and it ended up being a better
fit for him.
OBLN: How are these employees accepted within your
broader workplace?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: It varies – just like any other
employee. Everybody has different personality types that
they work well with. We have over 300 employees here
and, like any other world of experience, every employee
has people that they get along with and people that they
don’t.
ALISA SHAVER – Some of these employees have been
overly aggressive in making friendships in the store –
more so than the average employee. So, we’ve had
conversations with them and their job coaches about
sitting back a bit and not being so assertive on the
relationships.
OBLN – You folks have a lengthy track record of
hiring this type of employee – over ten years now. Why
do you feel this works for you? How is it valuable to
you?
ALISA SHAVER – I think any retail business is smart
to have a diverse group of people working in their store
because you have a diverse group of people coming in to
the store. Different people (customers) are comfortable
with different types of people. Customers like to see
people from all walks of life as employees in the store
– the same mix of people that they encounter in the rest
of the community.
We’ve been very lucky too. Here, most of the
employees that have disabilities - employees with job
coaches, have been very good workers.
OBLN: Janice, some people believe that employing
people with disabilities can be burdensome or complicate
the jobs of other employees. As an HR person, has
working with this group of employees changed your
workload significantly?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: I wouldn’t say that it has to any
extreme. I do, on occasion, have job developers that
have been overly assertive about having us hire
individuals that I don’t feel are right for the
business. But, of course, if it isn’t right for the
business, I can’t do it.
OBLN: Alicia, has this group of employees caused any
difficulties for their immediate supervisors?
ALISA SHAVER: Just occasionally, I’ve had to remind a
department manager that, generally, these people work
best within a routine and that, until they become
familiar with it, they can be flustered with changes,
any changes that are introduced. But, actually, some of
the regular employees can be much harder to deal with
than the ones with disabilities.
OBLN: From your comments, it seems that most of these
employees with job coaches are probably people with some
kind of mental handicap or developmental disability and
that most of the accommodations that they need are
around supervisory issues. Would that be a correct
assumption?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: In this particular store, that is
true.
OBLN: Do you have any idea what the retention rate is
for these employees?
JANICE CAVANAUGH: We don’t have any figures on that
but for the most part I would say that we have less
turnover with these employees than average.
OBLN: From what you have said, it seems that Fred
Meyer has become very comfortable with employing people
with intellectual disabilities and in interacting with
their job developers and job coaches. Yet, many
companies still seem to be hesitant about employing
these people. Do you have any idea why it has worked so
well for you?
ALISA SHAVER: At Fred Meyer, we really believe in
practicing diversity, inclusion, not stereotyping people
when they walk through the door – giving applicants a
real chance by sitting and talking with them and getting
to know them. If the person has a job coach, we organize
the time to sit and talk with them too - to really get
to know this person that is applying for work at our
store.
It is important that employers take the time to get
to really know people that are applying for work - no
matter what color they are, how they walk, what they
look like, how they talk – any of those things. At Fred
Meyer we are working very hard to ensure that we aren’t
stereotyping and we are taking the time to get to know
the individual people that want to have jobs with us.
Five or six of our employees with disabilities have
probably been here for four to five years now and there
are customers that will ask only for them to carry their
groceries to their cars. A couple of them are
particularly big assets to our store. The Senior Vice
President of our company has even recognized one of them
as being among the best employees that we have. Luckily,
four or five years ago, someone here gave this man a
chance to work for us and he has worked out to be a
great employee.